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10.5: Banish the 3D dock from 10.5 System 10.5
The 10.5 Dock, as seen at the bottom of the screen, has a 3D effect. If you toss the dock to the side of the screen, however, you get a nice 2D alternative Dock. If you'd like the 2D dock at all times (that is, even at the bottom of the screen), open Terminal and type the following command:
$ defaults write com.apple.dock no-glass -boolean YES; killall Dock
The Dock will then restart, and you should be seeing the 2D dock at the bottom of the screen, like this (click for a larger version):


[robg adds: This one simple change had a dramatic impact on my feelings for 10.5 -- I really, really dislike the 3D dock. This 2D version isn't perfect, but it's a marked improvement over the stock version. BTW, if you like the dimmed "hidden app" indicators in my dock shot above, those are from this 2003 hint that still works in 10.5.

If you can't decide between the two docks, and want to make it easier to flip between them, my coworker Dan Frakes whipped up a couple of very simple AppleScripts [34KB download] to make that task easier. You could use Butler or a similar app to put each script on a hot key, making it even simpler to toggle. No toggling here, though, as the 3D dock has seen the last of its days on my machines.]
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10.5: Banish the 3D dock from 10.5
Authored by: Clint MacDonald on Wed, Oct 24 2007 at 8:01PM PDT
$ defaults write com.apple.dock no-glass -boolean YES; killall Dock
This may already be my favorite Leopard hint of all. Keep up the good work!

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10.5: Banish the 3D dock from 10.5
Authored by: morespace54 on Thu, Oct 25 2007 at 6:53AM PDT
Great!!! Can we vote already? ;)

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10.5: Banish the 3D dock from 10.5
Authored by: jelmore49 on Fri, Oct 26 2007 at 2:26PM PDT
I love the fact that the "open application" dots are so much more visible against the 2D dock. I even threw the white wallpaper behind it and could easily tell which apps are open.

I wouldn't mind the 3D Dock if the light-blue marbles weren't so hard to see against the "reflection" of the Dock surface.

I actually submitted a Leopard hint for the contest, but if this one ends up winning I won't complain...

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10.5: Banish the 3D dock from 10.5
Authored by: TypeMRT on Tue, Oct 30 2007 at 3:02PM PDT
The blue dot files (indicator_large.png, indicator_medium_simple.png, indicator_medium.png, indicator_small_simple.png, indicator_small.png) can be found here:

/System/Library/CoreServices
Right-click on Dock and "show package contents"
/Contents/Resources/

Be sure to check out http://www.blambert.co.uk/smokedock/ for a tamed-down version of the 3D dock.

Have fun, and remember to backup!

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10.5: Banish the 3D dock from 10.5
Authored by: robogobo on Sun, Nov 18 2007 at 4:27AM PST
broken link

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10.5: Banish the 3D dock from 10.5
Authored by: mdanielvm on Mon, Oct 29 2007 at 3:38PM PDT
ok so how I do I UNDO the 2D dock if I want to and get the 3D dock back???

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10.5: Banish the 3D dock from 10.5
Authored by: cycomachead on Wed, Oct 24 2007 at 8:03PM PDT
Well it's not exactly fair that you get it early! Thanx for the hint, Im gonna give the 3D dock a couple days and then try this. Time for Onxy, TinkerTool etc to be updated.

Oh and here's my hint tip: check the plist files! - they offer soooo much cool tweaking.

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10.5: Banish the 3D dock from 10.5
Authored by: stevec on Wed, Oct 24 2007 at 8:08PM PDT
Yes but does that change the behavior of (for example) putting a folder of alises of common apps in the dock that you would normally see? IE a stack of the sub folders with no ability to see THEIR contents.

Yeah the Leopard dock broke my favorite launcher: a folder with folders of alises of apps in them... dag nabbit!

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10.5: Banish the 3D dock from 10.5
Authored by: IHaveABugInMyEye on Thu, Oct 25 2007 at 12:26AM PDT
I think stacks are going to be the big disappointment in leopard. the limit of 9 icons in fan mode, the inability to adjust the icon sizes, no stacks of random items, no sub-folders in stacks, the removal of right click folder listings. Most of that functionality was in the earlier beta builds and there are still settings for them in the dock plist, so hopefully apple only removed them because they couldn't work out all the bugs before the final release and they'll be restored in one of the first updates.

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10.5: Banish the 3D dock from 10.5
Authored by: Oneota on Wed, Oct 24 2007 at 8:17PM PDT
Sadly, Leopard broke the ability for the Dock to be on the top of the screen, which is where I've had it since the 10.0 days (on top, pinned to the right). This makes me very, very unhappy.

Leopard = poo. :(

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10.5: Banish the 3D dock from 10.5
Authored by: mantrid on Wed, Oct 24 2007 at 8:43PM PDT
Are you serious?

I also have used orientation = top ; pinning = end; for years.

Anything else seems unnatural. Bottom-up is so Windows Start. Left, the Dock is always covering the close box, and on the right, it's scroll bars.

I hate Apple.

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10.5: Banish the 3D dock from 10.5
Authored by: robogobo on Sat, Nov 17 2007 at 4:13PM PST
Ok I guess we won't be seeing you around much more then.

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10.5: Banish the 3D dock from 10.5
Authored by: astrosmash on Wed, Oct 24 2007 at 8:32PM PDT
Any way to enable Glass when the Dock is on the left or right-hand side of the screen?

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10.5: Banish the 3D dock from 10.5
Authored by: macavenger on Wed, Oct 24 2007 at 8:38PM PDT
Yeah, that's the hint I want- I like the dock on the side of the screen, but I really, really like the 3D Dock. I would guess that perhaps moving it to the side simply changes this preference automatically, so perhaps changing the yes to a no would re-enable it on the side, but I can't test until Friday. If anyone knows and would be so kind to post, it would be appreciated.

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10.5: Banish the 3D dock from 10.5
Authored by: robg on Wed, Oct 24 2007 at 9:02PM PDT
The value is set programmatically, so forcing it to "NO" (ie 3D effects on) has no effect: as soon as you toss the dock to the edge, it turns 2D again.

-rob.

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10.5: Banish the 3D dock from 10.5
Authored by: macavenger on Thu, Oct 25 2007 at 7:35AM PDT
Right, but what if you set it AFTER moving the dock? Is it reset the next time the dock restarts, or just ignored? Like I said, I was just guessing :)

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10.5: Banish the 3D dock from 10.5
Authored by: robg on Thu, Oct 25 2007 at 8:39AM PDT
It's just ignored. The Dock app seems to reset the pref when you drag it to the side.

-rob.

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Menu Bar
Authored by: HessianSack on Wed, Oct 24 2007 at 8:48PM PDT
Now we're all just waiting for the follow-up hint on how to turn the menu bar opaque.

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Menu Bar
Authored by: robg on Wed, Oct 24 2007 at 9:00PM PDT
I hope it's coming, but so far, the best I've been able to do is to make the top 22 (I think that's the number) pixels of your desktop images solid white.

Lame, but it works.

The hint I'm *really* digging to find is the one to set the menus' opacity -- not the menu bar, but the menus themselves. So far, no luck, though I continue to scan strings output for various binaries.

-rob.

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Menus
Authored by: wm on Wed, Oct 24 2007 at 9:44PM PDT
Anybody know of any screenshots of the new menus? Or are they the same as in the last developer seed?

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Menu Bar
Authored by: harmless on Thu, Oct 25 2007 at 12:34AM PDT
so far, the best I've been able to do is to make the top 22 (I think that's the number) pixels of your desktop images solid white.

My copy of Leopard hasn't arrived yet, but this should work anyway:

http://www.harmless.de/download/OpaqueMenuBar.zip

It's a small app I whipped up, that places a borderless white window directly below the menu bar. No UI whatsoever. To get rid of it you will have to kill it using Activity Monitor or the command line.



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Menu Bar
Authored by: robg on Thu, Oct 25 2007 at 4:38AM PDT
No, it won't work (and I just tested it to be sure). This is what Peter Maurer's Non-Transparent Menu Bar did, too, but it too no longer works in the final version.

-rob.

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Menu Bar
Authored by: harmless on Thu, Oct 25 2007 at 8:13AM PDT
Too bad. I really hope, someone will find a working hack. (And maybe we should file a bug since the menu bar is supposed to be translucent, but apparently isn't ...)

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Help! This breaks VMWare!
Authored by: reaverle on Fri, Oct 26 2007 at 4:42AM PDT
Hi!
What does this script o and how can I revert? As noted, it doesn't tranlucency - but it adds a fat white line to the top of vm's full screen mode, making it inaccesible!
Please help!

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Menu Bar
Authored by: sadig on Sun, Oct 28 2007 at 11:24AM PDT
how about a wallpaper with a 22px white strip at the top?

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10.5: Banish the 3D dock from 10.5
Authored by: rawhead on Wed, Oct 24 2007 at 9:46PM PDT
You two aren't serious, are you?

OSX never had the option to pin the dock on the top of the screen out of the box. You must have used tools like Tinkertool to get that. And if it's not working any more in Leopard, well, it just means you'll have to wait till your OS tinkering tool of choice gets updated.

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Like tears in rain.
Time to die.

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10.5: Banish the 3D dock from 10.5
Authored by: rawhead on Wed, Oct 24 2007 at 9:47PM PDT
Oops, I meant this to be a reply to Oneota...

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10.5: Banish the 3D dock from 10.5
Authored by: robg on Wed, Oct 24 2007 at 10:41PM PDT
The problem is that the plist setting that was used to move the dock to the top of the screen has been removed from 10.5 -- so the hack won't be updated, because it's no longer possible.

Why? My guess is that it was because the 3D dock casts shadows and reflections, and seeing those at the top of the screen would've been strange (the shadows would've technically gone up into the menu bar, for instance).

Now that there's a 2D dock alternative, perhaps we'll see this plist setting return in a future update -- but I won't hold my breath for that one :).

-rob.

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10.5: Banish the 3D dock from 10.5
Authored by: Padriac on Wed, Oct 24 2007 at 10:03PM PDT
While I respect subjective opinion, I'm amazed at how very wrong everbody is about the new Dock. It is *functionally* superior to the old dock in almost every way:

http://www.consumermachine.com/?p=285

I'm happy we can customize with hints like this, but I hope everybody realizes they are switching to an inferior tool.

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10.5: Banish the 3D dock from 10.5
Authored by: robg on Wed, Oct 24 2007 at 10:36PM PDT
We're not comparing it to the OLD dock. We're comparing it to the new alternative dock. And in that comparison, for me, the 3D version is simply the pits.

The article you reference makes a number of statements, but there's no hard evidence (ie scientific studies) included to back up those statements. I, on the other hand, will never claim science in this debate. I just know I prefer working with the 2D dock over the 3D dock.

-rob.

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10.5: Banish the 3D dock from 10.5
Authored by: harmless on Wed, Oct 24 2007 at 10:55PM PDT
I disagree with everything the author says in that article.

While I really don't want to write as long an essay about it, just a few points:

The docks bounding box is "telling me not to go there"? I guess we should remove borders around windows, too.

The reflections make it "easier to find" the dock icons? I'm perfectly aware where my dock icons are; I don't have to "find" them, thank you very much.

I could go on. But thankfully it isn't necessary, since I can just disable all that visually distracting nonsense.

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10.5: Banish the 3D dock from 10.5
Authored by: DanFrakes on Thu, Oct 25 2007 at 3:03PM PDT
Padriac, just because that article says everyone is "wrong" and the modified design is an "inferior tool" doesn't make either statement true. Many of the points in that article are matters of opinion, and some of them are just plain illogical.

If you like the new Dock appearance, great; you'll be happier with Leopard than some other people ;-)

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Dan Frakes / Senior Editor, Macworld / Senior Reviews Editor, Playlist

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10.5: Banish the 3D dock from 10.5
Authored by: bdkennedy1 on Wed, Oct 24 2007 at 11:17PM PDT
I think this is the first time ever that I will be disabling a feature of OS X. I can't stand the 3D dock. It's distracting.

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10.5: Banish the 3D dock from 10.5
Authored by: ballardmac on Thu, Oct 25 2007 at 12:00AM PDT
Hmmnn... can't seem to get this one to work for me (ran it a few times in Terminal.app), but still seeing 3D Aero--oops, I meant "glass" effect.

robg: where did Apple announce the lifting of the NDA? Wow, this feels liberating... for about a day.

I'm running 10.5 Build 9A559 on iBook G4 14/1.42 GHz, but try it on x86 iMacs at work tomorrow.

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10.5: Banish the 3D dock from 10.5
Authored by: wm on Thu, Oct 25 2007 at 1:08AM PDT
Since the 2D side-dock was added between 9A559 and the GM, I'm guessing the optional 2D bottom-dock was too...

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10.5: Banish the 3D dock from 10.5
Authored by: robg on Thu, Oct 25 2007 at 4:35AM PDT
Being coverered by the NDA, we're not allowed to discuss changes in beta and/or GM builds. Suffice it to say that this definitely works in the GM. (Just because the NDA was lifted doesn't mean we can now start discussing what was in the seeds.)

As for when did Apple announce the lifting of the NDA, that's not something they announce in a press release. We were told by our Apple PR contacts that the NDA was being lifted.

-rob.

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10.5: Banish the 3D dock from 10.5
Authored by: lfrancis on Sat, Oct 27 2007 at 4:13PM PDT
Don't include the "$" when you cut and paste into the Terminal.

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/me hates too
Authored by: kkL on Thu, Oct 25 2007 at 1:03AM PDT
It seems that Apple just made a bunch of random changes to one-up Vista's random glittery changes.


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10.5: Banish the 3D dock from 10.5
Authored by: escowles on Thu, Oct 25 2007 at 3:27AM PDT
I too used to use a bunch of folders full of aliases in the Dock as my main app launcher.

Luckily, I just found a new tool called QuickPick:

http://www.araelium.com/quickpick/

When you hit a hot key or click on its Dock icon, it brings up a full screen menu, which can have multiple pages, where each page is like a Finder icon view. And if you right-click the Dock icon, it provides a menu with each page as a folder.

So assuming it still works in Leopard, it might be a good replacement.

-Esme

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10.5: Banish the 3D dock from 10.5
Authored by: pakkman781 on Thu, Oct 25 2007 at 6:51AM PDT
Just out of curiosity, is there any way to enable the 3D dock while on the side? I only ask for speculation, as I always have mine on the bottom anyways :)

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Another option?
Authored by: jiclark on Thu, Oct 25 2007 at 10:44AM PDT
I'm surprised no one has mentioned TransparentDock, if only by way of pointing out another option. Namely, that of keeping everything about the 3-D Dock but the silly Floor!

I'm really hoping someone will figure out an option to remove the "Floor" without changing anything else... The nice thing is, that would also make it easier to have it work when viewed on either side!

It seems Apple has, in recent years, moved away from the old days of ultimate flexibility in modifying the GUI. It's probably because things have gotten so complex, but hopefully they'll find some happy middle ground where we can do at least some of the things we'd like to be able to do!!!

Thoughts?

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Another option?
Authored by: DanFrakes on Thu, Oct 25 2007 at 2:59PM PDT
Unfortunately, TransparentDock doesn't work with 10.4.9 or later -- including Leopard.

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Another option?
Authored by: Urtho on Fri, Oct 26 2007 at 7:05AM PDT
I don't know whether it will work on Leopard or not, but ClearDock works on 10.4.10 and allows changing of the docks color and transparency, or adding a border... http://unsanity.com/haxies/cleardock

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defaults pref for scrollbars
Authored by: rickroberts on Thu, Oct 25 2007 at 12:54PM PDT
I hope there is a way to iTunify the scrollbars. I want consistency.

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10.5: Banish the 3D dock from 10.5
Authored by: brachiator on Fri, Oct 26 2007 at 5:36PM PDT
That article – feh! The author doesn't seem to have any sense of direction and clearly doesn't recognize that the enemy's gate is down. Plus, his (?) judgment is dubious: he's running ads for Michelle Malkin.

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10.5: Banish the 3D dock from 10.5
Authored by: jonahlee on Fri, Oct 26 2007 at 8:24PM PDT
Oh thank you, thank you, thank you. The new 2D dock was just terrible. The 2D doc is vastly easier to visually use!!!

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10.5: Banish the 3D dock from 10.5
Authored by: wizarddrongo on Sat, Oct 27 2007 at 6:25AM PDT
I posted this as a hint, but I know it's a bit of a duplicate, so hey.
I'm plugging my app, my very first I'd add :)
It does what the terminal command does, but in a nice user-friendly gui :)
Which is for those who are incredibly loathe to use the terminal, or those for whom it's blocked.
http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/26070/dockswitcher/link



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10.5: Banish the 3D dock from 10.5
Authored by: Prime Mover on Sat, Oct 27 2007 at 5:58PM PDT
My complaint with the 3D dock isn't so much the floor or the shadows, I like those, what bothers me is those light blue balls that show you what apps are open. They're almost IMPOSSIBLE to see over the icon reflections (most of which are light blue). If there was a way to change the style of those, I'd be much more interested in the new dock design.

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10.5: Banish the 3D dock from 10.5
Authored by: Ripcord on Mon, Oct 29 2007 at 5:52PM PDT
I actually like the feel of the new Dock (didn't at first). The only problem I have is that the Stacks are functionally much worse than they were in 10.4 (yes, they were there).

In 10.4, if you dragged a folder to the Dock you essentially got a somewhat less-flashy version of Stacks. When you right-clicked on the folder, you got a pop-up menu that displayed the contents of the folder in a list, and let you navigate easily. However, they regressed this in 10.5.

- If you had a large folder full of stuff, you could see most of it on one screen in a nice list form. Maybe it's just me, but it's much harder for me to find stuff when it's scattered around a bunch of rows in big icons across the screen. I'm looking for the name, not the icon.
- If you have sub-folders, you can only navigate to them by opening a new finder window. That kind of defeats the purpose of the stacks. In 10.4 the contents of a sub-folder would just pop up in a list when you selected it. In earlier versions of 10.5 sub-folders would even come up in a stack-like view when you clicked on them, which was somewhat acceptable, but now they just open a Finder view.
- Custom icons are a pain. In 10.4 I could easily identify which "Stack" in my dock was for what purpose at a glance. Every folder had its unique icon. Now I just get the icon of whatever the top thing in my folder is, which might change regularly (and which might make no sense). I can sort of fix this by adding a dummy file into the folder with the icon I want, but why should I have to?
- Aesthetics suck. When I first saw how the icon in the dock was just a big "jumble" of all the icons in the folder, I thought it was a bug. It just looks so messy, like they meant to draw only one icon but accidentally drew each, painting one overtop of another in a big mess.

I hope there's a Dock param to bring the old stacks mode back. I like some of the prettiness and how they're finally advertising the feature, but functionally it's a huge step backwards.

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10.5: Banish the 3D dock from 10.5
Authored by: shorts on Thu, Nov 8 2007 at 4:07AM PST
To revert back to the default dock simply change the boolean to NO instead of YES ie defaults write com.apple.dock no-glass -boolean NO; killall Dock

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10.5: Banish the 3D dock from 10.5
Authored by: Jack Rodgers on Fri, Feb 8 2008 at 7:04AM PST
Mac Pilot has a checkbox to toggle between 2D/3D. No messing with Applescripts or the command line needed.

There are also many other customizations available in Mac Pilot and *censored*tail.

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10.5: Banish the 3D dock from 10.5
Authored by: bwidow on Tue, Aug 25 2009 at 5:57AM PDT
this "hint" just erased all my keyboard shortcuts, eg. spotlight search, which does not come back on when you go into system preferences. anyone?, the author perhaps?

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