Remove the scrollbar but not the buffer from Terminal

Coming from a Linux background, I miss having a terminal window that had a buffer but did not display a scrollbar. Terminal previously would not allow you to have one without the other.

While setting up a special terminal window, I noticed that the .term files have a separate entry for the scrollbar and the buffer. While the GUI combines these, you can go into the .term file itself and turn off the scroll bar and keep the buffer!

[robg adds: To make this work, first you'll need to create a saved Terminal using File -> Save. Hopefully it saves in the default location (your user's Library -> Application Support -> Terminal folder). This allows the saved Terminal to be used from the File -> Library menu. Regardless of where it's saved, once you have a saved Terminal, open it in your favorite editor and search for:


<key>Scrollbar</key>
<string>YES</string>

Change the YES to NO, save the file, and then open it in Terminal. You should now have a window with scrollback but without the scrollbar.]

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Remove the scrollbar but not the buffer from Terminal
Authored by: cubixe on Wed, Nov 26 2003 at 2:28PM PST

I did not have a "Scrollbar" key, but I added one immediately after "Scrollback" and it worked fine.

Doesn't work for new terminal windows
Authored by: cstuder on Wed, Nov 26 2003 at 6:40PM PST

Hmm, looks like a nice little hack but it doesn't work completely for me.

I modified the .term and used it as the default .term to be launched at the start of the Terminal.app. Unfortunately if I open further terminal windows, the file is being ignored... Any workaround for that?

Bye,
christian

Doesn't work for new terminal windows
Authored by: unixjanitor on Wed, Nov 26 2003 at 7:34PM PST

Go to File->Open, select the .term file, then go to Show Info (Command-i), then click the "Use Setting as Default" bottom at the bottom of the window, now all terminal windows will open without a scroll bar, even after quiting and restarting Terminal.

Jeff

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Doesn't work for new terminal windows
Authored by: jayd on Thu, Nov 27 2003 at 7:57PM PST

it also seems to work to launch the patched Terminal, then say File -> Use Settings as Defaults. Very cool.

Remove the scrollbar but not the buffer from Terminal
Authored by: cilly on Thu, Nov 27 2003 at 10:18AM PST

Well, not only the scrollbar has gone but also the title bar displays only the window-size.
It seems if the scrollbar-key value is set to NO, the window title bits are ignored.

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Another way
Authored by: gnix on Thu, Nov 27 2003 at 10:56AM PST

You can also set this in the terminal defaults, only snag is that Terminal can't be running when you do so, or it resets the default to yes.

First quit Terminal.app

Then edit ~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.Terminal.plist file in TextEdit or another gui editor as described for the .term file

Or, if you have X11 installed, open an xterm and type the following command:

    $ defaults write com.apple.terminal Scrollbar NO

Then launch terminal and see the change

Remove the scrollbar but not the buffer from Terminal
Authored by: EatingPie on Fri, Nov 28 2003 at 2:30PM PST

Okay, dumb question...

How do you you look at the scrollback buffer without a scrollbar?

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Remove the scrollbar but not the buffer from Terminal
Authored by: sjmills on Sun, Nov 30 2003 at 12:03AM PST

I'm guessing by using page up/down. I think the better question is; why would you not want the scrollbar? If you use command-f, sometimes it's nice to know which item has been found by simply looking at the position of the thumb in the scrollbar.

Remove the scrollbar but not the buffer from Terminal
Authored by: milkfilk on Tue, Jan 27 2004 at 10:35PM PST

It is page up / page down. To answer the previous reply: "Why would you want to remove the scrollbar?"

1. Xterm does it, Gnome terminal does it, Solaris dtterm does it. People get used to it? *shrug*

2. Some call it "The One True Way". Maybe you stare at your computer all day. Should it not look nice? You clean your house right?

3. Because it's there? :)

Remove the scrollbar but not the buffer from Terminal
Authored by: hj45lp on Mon, Nov 12 2007 at 12:37AM PST

Hi,

this does not work anymore in Leopard. Any idea what to do?

Thanks!

Thomas

Remove the scrollbar but not the buffer from Terminal
Authored by: waltimo on Tue, Nov 27 2007 at 4:37AM PST

Same here. Not working anymore with Leopard :(

Any suggestions?

:.:.:

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